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Tanfoligo TA 90
« on: October 26, 2011, 11:24:30 AM »
OK guys been missing for a while just starting to catch up and figured I'd check back in.

I have been a gun guy since single digit years w/cap, cork, water, and pop guns. I have owned too many and fall in love with them all. Until one day for whatever reason my head turns and I see something interesting.

I have to say I was late joining the 9mm party and stuck to the 1911/45 acp for too long. When I held for the first time the Browning hi-power and then took it out to the range, amazing. Now I sold off the 45's and said this is the only one I'll ever own/want/need. Yet you know there are always a few that get away.. HK P7M8, CZ 75, and well maybe others. I have been tempted often to try something new but honestly felt like I was some how cheating on my beloved BHP. Gunbroker will be the death of me I'm certain. As I can look and watch AND BID. That is just what happen this weekend. I had been watching CZ75 and clones for some time and well this really rough looking Tanfoligo showed up. I haven't even gotten the Pistol yet I sent out the Money Order on Monday and the FFL has emailed his License so it is now just waiting. Anyway I took these photos from the auction so you all could see how it looks. I mean I think I stole this for what I paid, even with shipping, ffl and such I'm well ahead.

My plan is to shoot the hell out of her when she comes in and see if I like how it feels. I know shes a beater but the feel is what I'm looking for, I can always make her perform with slight mods here and there, and again with what I paid I have room to spruce her up a bit.

Once she arrives I'll break her down and take my own pictures. Then a range report. If she performs then it'll be time to monkey around with smoothing out some or her cosmetic issues.

Oh I have done some basic Googles on "COMBAT SHOOTING COHAI" anyone have any real info on that?

Enjoy these for now.
     













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Tanfoligo TA 90
« on: October 26, 2011, 11:24:30 AM »

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 01:54:42 PM »
Congrats on the new pistol!  Lucky ;D

I'm looking forward to the range report and more pics.  It's a great looking piece; I like the worn look on it.


ETA:  I don't know anything about those guns or what the COMBAT SHOOTING COHAI thing is.  All I know is that, from your pics, Century Arms brought it into the states
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 02:33:21 PM by masfonos »

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 02:29:43 PM »
i don't know what all you found on google, but here is some info about the COMBAT variety of the T(A) pistols from wiki:

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Self-defence orientated full size pistol with a steel frame and a high-capacity magazine. The pistol has a "cocked and locked" safety on the frame with an automatic firing pin safety, double action trigger, standard reversible magazine catch, standard hammer three dots sights, and standard magazine. The Combat is available in 9x19mm Parabellum (16), 9x21mm (16), .38 Super Auto (17), .40 S&W (14), 10mm Auto (11) and .45 ACP (10)


That page sounds like its talking about the same thing or something similar, but the guns look a good deal different from yours.  I think those guns were made in Italy as a contract for IMI (of uzi fame) or some other Israeli company.

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 03:03:52 PM »
Congrats on getting a good deal on a new (to you) pistol.  Don't forget your GunLink Pistol Targets for your range trip.   ;)

As mentioned above, they may have been made in Italy as some sort of a contract deal for Mossad.

The Century Arms International import mark is a good lead.  You could probably try contacting them as they may have some documentation on them such as manuals, parts lists, etc.  As per the 2011 CAI catalog, the item number you are looking for is probably HG2787.



Barring that, contacting Tanfoglio directly may turn up some information on the pistol including documentation, year of manufacture, etc.

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »
Hey guys thanks for the reply's I picked the TA90 up Saturday and haven't had the chance to get out with it yet. The Gun is far cleaner on the inside then out. I thought for a moment the slide had been swapped out but all numbers still match. The Rear sight, aftermarket I've been told, was bent down so the hammer would hit a bit soft so I need to take and press the hammer down just a noticeable  amount with my thumb. Of course like any of my new toys the first thing I do is take it apart, loose pieces or break something or have a hell of a time getting  it back together. What should make this any different.   

After taking the slide from the frame (Snap), I saw that the frame rails show very little wear, the hammer and sear look well polished. The place in the frame where the guide rod sits doesn't have any of the mushrooming that I saw on other threads as a "what to look out for".

Grips off everything clean reassemble and work the slide. I did it no worries. So then I see two little set screws holding the rear sight into the dove tail so a drop of KROIL on each and either side of the sight and wait patiently for about 10 seconds before I try to back out the screw. BINGO they both come out with little effort. Now I remover the slide again, set it on my bench (currently set up for reloading and NOT Smithing) I proceed to strike the sight with hammer and punch from right to left. No good. I then go left to right, no good, a bit harder, no good, a bit harder and still nada. OK a trip up to the PC and a few forum post later saying leave it alone its a PITA to remove I say fine. The sight is large enough that I can just file away what is interfering with the hammer. SO I grab the file and before I set to shaving it down I think hell this is gonna shoot very high maybe they did this on purpose because they were shooting at greater distances. What the hell I turn it over and tap I mean tap it from the under side and a few choice words later I'm looking for the broken piece. WTH. so time for a Better rear sight, search on line produces some but I'm cheap so the looking turns to used, which I'll be posting on boards soon for. Until then I decided to remove the rest of the rear sight and well what do you know about two taps latter it budged and then light taps the rest of the way, again WTH. Now two pieces in hand and still impatient I grab my torch and some brazing rod and well "FIX" it. (I say impatient b/c my tips at home are larger then some I have at work and well its not easy brazing small stuff with a big tip). I say its fixed and I'm OK with it I will shoot it AS-IS until I get a new or used one. Heck If I don;t like it I'll just pass it on. BUT I think I'm gonna like it. The trigger is firm but smooth in Double action and the single action has little take up or creep and very little movement I think to reset (hard to tell) One thing is for sure I think the recoil spring might be heavy as working the slide back is VERY hard and takes a bunch of effort, a bit less without a mag. I looked over where it might benefit from some polishing and I think its the spring. I mean with out it it cycles manually without or resistance. Again reading about spring rates and stuff I'm going to shoot her for a while before I make any changes.

So as soon as the weather breaks and I can get outside to snap some of my own pics I'll update. Also I may have opportunity to get out this week and put a few hundred rounds down range to see how she feels.

       

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 02:55:47 PM »
Wow made it to the range today brought out the TA and my BHP to see which was better. In the end about two hours and 200 rounds later I'd say they are like my children, I wouldn't pick one over the other, neither is or will be more loved, its just The BHP has been loved longer and so its not going anywhere the TA did not decisively win the battle. One thing I got use to very quickly and may just be a mod for the BHP is the flat front on the trigger guard, man I like that.

The repaired rear sight held up well at the range and was spot on. My first 10 at 10 yards were better then I'd though. I put a spot of glow-in-the-dark paint on the front sight and well it works well. It has worked well on the BHP but needs a new application on the front since it was old and finally shot away. I think I might tap it off the slide and drill a small hole so I can keep it more secure. 

Anyway if anyone was questioning getting one of these I strongly recommend the TA90, its my first outing and time will tell if it holds its appeal with me. I'm very happy I have it.


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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 10:21:36 AM »
Nice shooting, small!  Thanks for posting results of how it shot.  Now where are our glamor shots of your new toy?   ;D

Did you take any of our pistol targets with you?  You can get those flyers in the ten-ring in no time.  ;)

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 10:39:26 AM »
Nice shooting, small!  Thanks for posting results of how it shot.  Now where are our glamor shots of your new toy?   ;D

Did you take any of our pistol targets with you?  You can get those flyers in the ten-ring in no time.  ;)


Flyers?  I don't know, those look like pretty good hits to me.

+1 for more pics of the pistol.

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 09:16:59 PM »
Hey thanks guys, I don;t care what light I take these pictures this gun is pretty ugly, yet I'll try. The internals are remarkable without wear and look great.

Those were the first ten I shot with it I was still trying to figure out where the trigger broke at. I got cocky and well there goes a flier. At the end of 100 rounds 6/10 in the red (2-3 X) and the other four in the nine. (most times). MOving back and speeding up opened the groups up but not outside of "I'll take that" For accuracy and over all performance it is holding its own with the Hi Power. I didn't pay close attention at the time and it may require a separate post but when firing the BHP sometimes the trigger felt gritty and other time not. I saw a guy on a different forum mention that with the mag safety still installed on his BHP different mags gave a different feel. Anyone here notice this?









I will try and doll this up some even if its with a bit of cold blue on the shiny spots. Oh I'm now convinced that I'll probable never hold a 1911 at the range again. Man what was I even thinking. 

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 07:50:18 PM »
Another day at the range. In almost 100 rounds I had two failures to extract, the case was left half way in the chamber the slide returned picking up the next round and jamming under the spent case. I popped out the mag which was tough since the top round had been partially stripped, but it did fall then let the slide go forward and manually pulled it back tossing the spent case. I figure used gun time for an extractor, well once I had it out it looked NEW not a wear mark through the black finish anywhere. So I cleaned the hell out of where it went into the slide and found a bunch of gunk. Figure I'll try again and see what happens. I see they have extra strong springs for sale (Wolf) so if cleaning doesn't do it maybe a stiffer spring.

Anyone else have experience with this problem, what are some suggestions. When I may a first contact with EEA they said change pin, spring, and extractor to new, Me I like to change things one at a time rather then throw parts at a problem.   

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »
Reading a Tanfoglio press release for SHOT Show reminded me of this thread.  How is the TA90 treating you?  Did the thorough cleaning fix your ejection/extraction issues or did you have to move on to replacing parts?

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 05:37:43 PM »
Wow was February that last time I had this out? Actually I had it out about two weeks ago but didn't run much through it, under 50 rounds. It functioned fine no failures. The cleaning may have gotten it. Next time out I'll try and give it a real work out.

This range session I was checking out a Ruger MKI that I replaced the sear, spring, trigger, disco and hammer on. The sear disconnect was listed as being for an AMT lightning IIRC. Everything functioned well but there was a lot more take up in the trigger then before. Also at the range I got some time in shooting a Smith and Wesson 500. Boy will that move you!

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 01:51:06 AM »
This gun seems like old fashion but as a performance report it is good.

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 10:22:22 PM »
I know I'm late, but am new to the site and a big fan of CZ and Tanfoglio pistols. I also have a TA-90 "combat shooting COHAI" version,just FYI COHAI means "Teacher" or "Trainer". Hope this helps alittle.

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Re: Tanfoligo TA 90
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2013, 10:45:04 PM »
Thanks southernboyinblack. I haven't been around much or with ammo prices shooting much. But the info is appreciated.

 

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