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2016 pres race Anyone going to be pro gun?
« on: March 01, 2015, 05:31:10 PM »
Is Paul going to be the R candidate in 2016?  He won straw poll at cpac with 26% of votes 5 points ahead of Scott Walker.  He gets good ratings from NRA and he doesnt mince words about defending the 2A on his senate website.  http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=16

He talked about the 2A again at CPAC this week too but it was basically what is on his site.   http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-paul-gop-needs-to-care-about-more-than-gun-rights/

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"We do a great job defending the Second Amendment, and everybody knows that," the Kentucky senator and potential presidential candidate said at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). "But we have to defend the whole Bill of Rights."

"To defend the Second amendment, you have to defend the Fourth Amendment," he continued. "You need the First Amendment to protect the Second Amendment... The Fifth, the Sixth -- we should have speedy trials in our country."

Walker also promotes 2A on his site http://www.scottwalker.com/issues/second-amendment and has NRA A rating. 

Who else out tehre is on "our side"?
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Offline LivingDeadGirl

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 11:15:48 PM »
Jeb Bush is talking about running...I don't like him very much,

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 12:23:52 PM »
Jeb usually sides with NRA on gun issues.  Probably a moot point though since there's no way he gets the nominaton to the big show.
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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 01:04:49 PM »
Jeb usually sides with NRA on gun issues.  Probably a moot point though since there's no way he gets the nominaton to the big show.

He's for universal background checks and add-on penalties for having a gun while committing a crime.  I wouldn't want him.

Messing with private in-state transactions between presumably law abiding private citizens buying/selling/trading legal items and demonizing guns by making their mere (otherwise legal) possession during a crime are both stupid. 

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 10:15:23 PM »
They're shmoozing in Iowa.  We'll see who people start liking and then figure out why those people are wrong.
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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2015, 11:40:10 PM »
I have a lot of self-proclaimed libertarian friends and they don't like Rand Paul nearly as much as like Ron Paul. But, they also dont like anyone else as of now for the R ticket.

I'm also curious who is going to get the Dem ticket because I honestly can't think of any Dems that are note-worthy.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 09:24:53 AM »
I have a lot of self-proclaimed libertarian friends and they don't like Rand Paul nearly as much as like Ron Paul. But, they also dont like anyone else as of now for the R ticket.

I'm also curious who is going to get the Dem ticket because I honestly can't think of any Dems that are note-worthy.



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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 11:14:18 PM »
I just heard today that Al Gore is thinking of running again. I wanted to bang my head on the wall.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 08:35:19 AM »
Ted Cruz is the first to throw his hat in the ring.


Here is what the cached version of his website says about his position on the Second Amendment:



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Leading the Fight for the 2nd Amendment

Ted Cruz has led the way in defense of our right to keep and bear arms. He led a coalition of 31 states protecting the 2nd Amendment by challenging the unconstitutional ban on gun rights in Washington, D.C.
  • Authored a brief on behalf of 31 states supporting the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. The ban on firearms was struck down in a 5-4 landmark decision before the U.S. Supreme Court;
  • Argued against unreasonable and burdensome gun restrictions before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.
  • Awarded the NRA’s 2010 Carter-Knight Freedom Fund, which “rewards exemplary activities in the support and protection of the right to Keep and Bear Arms.”
  • Honored by a 2008 resolution passed by the National Board of the NRA, thanking Ted for leading the States before the Supreme Court in the DC gun case, and noting that his “efforts made this victory for the American people possible.”
  • As NRA executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre observed, “Ted Cruz is one of our nation’s leading defenders of the Second Amendment. For over a decade, Ted has fought tirelessly to defend our constitutional right to keep and bear arms, and his leadership was absolutely critical to our major victories before the U.S. Supreme Court.”




Forbes:  Meet Ted Cruz-Second Amendment Hypocrite

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During this week’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on proposed gun regulations, Texas Tea Party Senator Ted Cruz chose to disrespect long-serving Senator Dianne Feinstein with a completely inappropriate lecture on the Constitution.

Apparently, Senator Cruz took profound exception to the notion that the 2nd Amendment permits the assault weapons ban that Senator Feinstein is supporting via the legislation she has proposed, arguing that that the 1st Amendment does not permit the banning of certain books so why would the 2nd Amendment allow the banning of certain weapons?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUhWoIdFb4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUhWoIdFb4</a>



http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Ted_Cruz_Gun_Control.htm

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Opposes unreasonable and burdensome gun restrictions

Voted NO on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets.

Opposes restricting the Second Amendment.

Oppose the United Nations' Arms Trade Treaty.




Politico:  Ted Cruz: An attack on 2nd Amendment

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“It is not surprising that the president uses it seems every opportunity he can to try to go after our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms,” Cruz said on CNN. “I think it is unfortunate that this president and this administration has a consistent disregard for the Bill of Rights.”

Cruz’s trip to Iowa this weekend (7/19/13) has stoked increased speculation that he intends to run for president in 2016.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 12:28:40 AM »
My local talk radio station had an interview with my House representative (a Dem. who is anti-gun), who I don't like, said Ted Cruz can't win. He's just throwing in to push the Republicans farther to the right. What do you think?

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 03:20:11 PM »
Well, Paul announced today that he is running. I'm going to wait to see everyone that enters before I decide, but I do like Rand Paul. I especially like that he stil has a "real" job outside of politics. If you didn't know, he's an ophthalmologist and he still sees patients.

Anyone think he has a shot? Do you like Cruz better? I have heard Rubio and Walker are tnking about it still.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2015, 08:56:37 PM »
Rubio and Clinton just announced as well.

Clinton is apparently driving around the country in a van named "Scooby" to meet the real US citizens. Does anyone buy this crap?

Who do like so far between Cruz, Paul and Rubio and why? I work with a self-proclaimed liberal who says he'll be voting Paul. I'm still doing some research and would welcome others thoughts.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2015, 11:21:00 AM »
There's some info at http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/

Rubio is mostly on the lead for Rs but its close

That page shows polls that say that HIlary is in the lead for Ds.  I don't think shes electable but who knows with her money and PR team and connections.
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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 11:47:14 PM »
Thanks for the link.

I missed his entire announcement speech, but from what I have heard and read, I like Dr. Carson. I havent heard too much about the Fiorina yet.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2015, 12:12:44 PM »
I think they aer getting too many people in the race.  It will spread things too thin and if someone is really for one candidate and someone else gets the nomination, those voters might stay home for general election.  I bet they all talk more about middle east, economy and immigration intead of gun control or gun rights.  I think we need to work to keep that in the spotlgiht though.  I mean the 94 AWB had Clintons name all over it!

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2015, 10:35:16 PM »
The scheduled debates don't invite everyone. Just the top 4 or 5, I think. That will help thin out the herd. As for the general election, I think most Republicans, Tea party, Libertarians, don't want another 4 years of Obama in disguise. I think we'll still have the turn out.  I think the problem is going to be the Dems suing a bunch of states for requiring a photo ID to vote.

As for debate topics, while gun control is extremely important, I think general safety, government entitlements and the economy are what most people are worried about. I haven't updated the PopVOx page in a while, I've been extremely busy with school and I really dislike their new format, but check out the website and let your congressmen know. I usually hear back from one of my senators regularly.

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Re: Rand Paul 2016?
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2015, 03:38:14 PM »
It has begun:



Setting the Stage for Gun Control to be a 2016 Campaign Issue?

Clinton Joins Obama in Call for Additional Restrictions on Constitutionally Protected Rights

Will someone firmly stand up to support gun rights?

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Re: 2016 pres race Anyone going to be pro gun?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 11:54:19 PM »
So many people trying to get on R ticket and most are jokes.  Sounds like gun control might actually get brought up though but I'm afraid that it might play well with the idiot masses given some of their "victory" momentum.  Socialist health care, gay marriage, next on the AGENDA:  gun control.  Executive orders, back door rule changes and decisions, et cetera.  Maybe by the time 2016 gets here it will be on the books already.
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Re: 2016 pres race Anyone going to be pro gun?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2015, 07:02:16 AM »
I really hope that McConnell stops "compromising" with the Dems. He's the MAJORITY leader. When Dems were the majority they didnt negotitate with the Reps.

I hear Sanders is getting a lot of support and despite my efforts, this is who my mother likes. Is Sanders a better choice than Clinton?

I also found an interesting site: http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz

It s a multiple choice politics quiz. If you select "Other Stances" you can see some additional choices for most questions and there's a spot to include your own stance. THere's a few different sections and it shows three or so questions, but most sections have a drop down menu at the bottom of those questions to see more for a given category. There's 60 questions in total. In the results page, there's a couple different tabs. You can see which political party you're most aligned with (and it includes a lot of third party options) and then it matches to the candidate that you're most aligned with. When you click on a candidate it shows you how you match up.

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