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Title: Hughes Amendment Vote Video and Transcript
Post by: GunLink on January 28, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
There have been rumblings for decades whether or not the Hughes Amendment (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d099:8:./temp/~bdmC6f::) to the Firearms Owners Protection Act (FOPA) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d099:HR04332:) - H. Amdt 777 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d099:8:./temp/~bdmC6f::) to HR 4332 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d099:HR04332:) of the 99th Congress - was legitimately passed or whether foul play was involved.

The unearthing of original footage of the debate, voice votes, division and electronically recorded votes was a boon for those wishing to figure out what actually happened.  However, wide circulation of a "highlight reel" of the Congressional activities of April 10, 1986 muddied the waters and confused many viewers who may not have been able to follow the jumps in footage due to the video edits. 

Here is the full footage of the initial "discussion" and votes [Roll No. 74] on H. Amdt 777 and subsequent vote on HR4332 [Roll No. 75] along with the transcript from the Congressional Record.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYofCuQ02g[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYofCuQ02g


Find full information on FOPA here (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d099:HR04332:).
Find full transcript from The Congressional Record here (http://www.gunlink.info/downloads/PDF/April_10_1986_Congressional_Record.pdf) (excerpt below).
Title: Re: Hughes Amendment Vote Video and Transcript
Post by: GunLink on January 28, 2014, 03:58:20 PM
11:30AM

The CHAIRMAN: All time has expired for consideration of the Hughes amendment to the Volkmer substitute.

For what purpose does the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. HUGHES] rise?

Mr. HUGHES: Mr. Chairman, I have a unanimous-consent request.

Mr. Chairman, I made the motion to rise so that I could get additional time for the Rules Committee to finish debate on a number of amendments that were noticed, have not been reached and will not be heard, and that is unfortunate. It is an important matter.  My unanimous-consent request is that I have 5 minutes to explain this vote.

Mr. SENSENBRENNER: A point of order. Mr. Chairman, that is not a proper Inquiry.

Mr. DINGELL: Mr. Chairman, a point of order. Regular order.

The CHAIRMAN: The gentleman will state his unanimous-consent request.

Mr. HUGHES: Mr. Chairman, my unanimous request is that I have 5 minutes to explain this vote on machinegun bans.

The CHAIRMAN: Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from New Jersey?

Mr. McCOLLUM: Reserving the right to object, Mr. Chairman, would the gentleman explain why he wants that 5 minutes?

Mr. HUGHES: So we can explain what is pending before the House.

Mr. McCOLLUM: Mr. Chairman, I withdraw my reservation of objection.

The CHAIRMAN: Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. HUGHES]?

Mr. SENSENBRENNER: Mr. Chairman, I object.

The CHAIRMAN: Objection is heard.  The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. HUGHES] to the amendment, as amended, offered by the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. VOLKMER] as a substitute for the Judiciary Committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.

The amendment to the amendment, as amended, offered as a substitute for the Judiciary Committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended, was agreed to.

The CHAIRMAN: The question is on the amendment, as amended, offered by the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. VOLKMER], as a substitute for the Judiciary Committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.

The question was taken; and the Chairman announced that the noes appeared to have it.   

Mr. VOLKMER: Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.

A recorded vote was ordered.

The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were-ayes 286, noes 136, not voting 12, as follows:   

[Roll No. 74]
AYES-286
Alexander Anderson Andrews Anthony Applegate ArcherArmey Aspin AuCoin Badham Barnard Bartlett Barton Bateman Bentley Bereuter Bevill Bilirakis Bliley Boehlert Boner (TN) Bonker Bosco Boucher Breaux Brooks Brown (CO) Broyhill Bruce Bryant Burton (IN) Bustamante Byron Callahan Campbell Carney Carr Chandler Chapman Chappell Chappie Cheney Clinger Coats Cobey Coble Coelho Coleman (MO) Coleman (TX) Combest Cooper Courter Craig Crane Daniel Dannemeyer Darden Daschle Daub Davis de la Garza DeLay Derrick DeWineDickinson Dicks Dingell Dorgan (ND) Dornan (CA) Dowdy Dreier Duncan Dyson Eckart (OH) Eckert (NY) Edwards (OK) Emerson English Erdreich Evans (IA) Fiedler Fields Fish Flippo Foley Ford (MI) Ford (TN) Fowler Franklin Frenzel Fuqua Gallo Gaydos Gekas Gilman Gingrich Glickman Goodling Gordon Gray (IL) Gregg Gunderson Hall, Ralph Hamilton Hammerschmidt Hansen Hartnett Hatcher Hefner Hendon Hiler Holt Hopkins Horton Hubbard Huckaby Hunter Hutto Hyde Jeffords Jenkins Johnson Jones (NC) Jones (OK) Jones (TN) Kanjorski Kasich Kemp Kindness Kleczka Kolbe Kolter KostmayerKramer Lagomarsino Latta Leach (IA) Leath (TX) Lehman (CA) Lent Lewis (CA) Lewis (FL) Lightfoot Livingston Lloyd Loeffler Long Lott Lowery (CA) Luken Lundine Lungren Mack MacKay Madigan Marlenee Martin (IL) Martin (NY) McCain McCandless McCloskey McCollum McCurdy McDade McEwenMcGrath McKernan McMillan Meyers Michel Miller (OH) Molinari Mollohan Monson Montgomery Moody Moore Moorhead Morrison (WA) Murphy Murtha Myers Natcher Neal Nelson Nielson Oberstar Obey Olin Ortiz Oxley Packard Parris Pashayan Pease Penny Perkins Petri Pickle Price Quillen Rahall Ray Regula Reid Richardson Ridge Ritter Roberts Robinson Roemer Rogers Rose Roth Rowland (CT) Rowland (GA) Rudd Saxton Schaefer Schuette Sensenbrenner Sharp Shaw Shelby Shumway Shuster Sikorski Siljander Sisisky Skeen Skelton Slattery Slaughter Smith (IA) Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Smith, Denny (OR) Smith, Robert (NH) Smith, Robert (OR) Snowe Snyder Solomon Spence Spratt Staggers Stallings Stangeland Stenholm Strang Stump Sundquist Sweeney Swift Swindall SynarTallon Tauke Tauzin Taylor Thomas (CA) Thomas (GA) Traxler Udall Valentine Vander Jagt Volkmer Vucanovich Walker Watkins Weaver Weber Whitley Whittaker Whitten Williams Wilson Wirth Wise Wolf Wortley Wyden Yatron Young (AK) Young (FL) Young (MO) Zschau

NOES-136 
Ackerman Akaka Annunzio Atkins Barnes Bates Bedell Beilenson Bennett Berman Biaggi Boland Bonior (MI) Borski Boxer Broomfield Brown (CA) Burton (CA) Carper Clay Collins Conte Conyers Coughlin Coyne Crockett Dellums DioGuardi Dixon Donnelly Downey Durbin Dwyer Dymally EarlyEdgar Edwards (CA) Evans (IL) Fascell Fawell Fazio Feighan Florio Foglietta Frank Frost Garcia Gejdenson Gibbons Gonzalez Gradison Gray (PA) GreenGuarini Hall (OH) Hawkins Hayes Henry Hertel Hillis Howard Hoyer Hughes Jacobs Kaptur Kastenmeier Kennelly Kildee LaFalce Lantos Lehman (FL) Leland Levin (MI) Levine (CA) Lipinski Lowry (WA) Manton Markey Martinez Matsui Mavroules Mazzoli McHugh McKinney Mica Mikulski Miller (CA) Miller (WA) Mineta Mitchell Moakley Morrison (CT) Mrazek Nowak Oakar Owens Panetta Pepper Porter Pursell Rangel Rinaldo Rodino Roe Rostenkowski Roukema Roybal Russo Sabo Savage Scheuer Schneider Schroeder Schumer Seiberling Smith (FL) Solarz St Germain Stark Stratton Studds Torres Torricelli Towns Traficant Vento Visclosky Walgren Waxman Weiss Wheat Whitehurst Wolpe Wright Wylie Yates

NOT VOTING-12
Addabbo Boggs Boulter Gephardt Grotberg Heftel Ireland Lujan Nichols O'Brien Schulze Stokes

11:45AM

The Clerk announced the following pairs:

On this vote:
Mr. Nichols for, with Mr. Heftel of Hawaii against.
Mr. Schulze for, with Mr. Oephardt against.
Mr. Ireland for, with Mr. Stokes against.
Mr. MAZZOLI and Mr. ANNUNZIO changed their votes from "aye" to "no."
Messrs. TAUZIN, KLECZKA, and WIRTH changed their votes from "no" to "aye"

So the amendment, as amended, offered as a substitute for the Judiciary Committce amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended, was agreed to. 

The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.

   PERSONAL EXPLANATION

Mr. FORD of Tennessee. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 74 on the adoption of the Volkmer substitute to the Federal Firearms Law Reform Act, I inadvertently   voted   "aye." I  am strongly opposed to the provisions of the Volkmer substitute and meant to vote "no."

The CHAIRMAN: The question is on the Judiciary Committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.

The Judiciary Committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended, was agreed to.

The CHAIRMAN: Under the rule, the Committee rises.

Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker having resumed the chair, Mr. RANGEL, Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 4332) to amend chapter 44 (relating to firearms) of title 18, United States Code, and for other purposes, pursuant to House Resolution 403, he reported the bill back to the House with an amendment adopted by the Committee of the Whole.

The SPEAKER: Under the rule, the previous question is ordered.

The question is on the amendment.

The amendment was agreed to.

The SPEAKER: The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill.

The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was read the third time. MOTION TO RECOMMIT OFFERED BY MR. GREEN

Mr. GREEN: Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.

The SPEAKER: Is the gentleman opposed to the bill?

Mr. GREEN: I am, Mr. Speaker.

The SPEAKER: The Clerk will report the motion to recommit.

The Clerk read as follows:

Mr. Green moves to recommit the bill, H.R. 4332, to the Committee on the Judiciary.

The SPEAKER: Without objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit.

There was no objection.

The SPEAKER: The question is on the motion to recommit.

The motion to recommit was rejected.

The SPEAKER: The question is on the passage of the bill.

The question was taken; and the Speaker announced that the ayes appeared to have it.

Mr. McCOLLUM: Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.

The yeas and nays were ordered. 

The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were-yeas 292, nays 130, not voting 12, as follows:

[Roll No. 75] 
YEAS-292
Alexander Anderson Andrews Anthony Applegate ArcherArmey Aspin AuCoin Badham Barnard Bartlett Barton Bateman Bentley Bereuter Bevill Bilirakis Bliley Boehlert Boggs Boner (TN) Bonker Bosco Boucher Breaux Brooks Brown (CO) Broyhill Bruce Bryant Burton (IN) Bustamante Byron Callahan Campbell Carney Carr Chandler Chapman Chappell Chappie Cheney Clinger Coats Cobey Coble Coelho Coleman (MO) Coleman (TX) Combest Conte Cooper Courter Craig Crane Daniel Dannemeyer Darden Daschle Daub Davis de la Garza DeLay Derrick DeWine Dickinson Dicks Dingell Dorgan (ND) Dornan (CA) Dowdy Dreier Duncan Dyson Eckart (OH) Eckert (NY) Edwards (OK) Emerson English Erdreich Evans (IA) Fiedler Fields Fish Flippo Florio Foley Ford (MI) Fowler Franklin Frenzel Fuqua Gallo Gaydos Gekas Gilman Gingrich Glickman Goodling Gordon Gray (IL) Gregg Gunderson Hall, Ralph Hamilton Hammerschmidt Hansen Hartnett Hatcher Hefner Hendon Hiler Hillis Holt Hopkins Horton Hubbard Huckaby Hunter Hutto Hyde Jeffords Jenkins Johnson Jones (NC) Jones (OK) Jones (TN) Kanjorski Kasich Kemp Kindness Kleczka Kolbe Kolter Kostmayer Kramer Lagomarsino Lantos Latta Leach (IA) Leath (TX) Lehman (CA) Lent Lewis (CA) Lewis (FL) Lightfoot Livingston Lloyd Loeffler Long Lott Lowery (CA) Luken Lundine Lungren Mack MacKay Madigan Marlenee Martin (IL) Martin (NY) Mazzoli McCain McCandless McCloskey McCollum McCurdy McDade McEwen McGrath McKernan McMillan Meyers Michel Miller (OH) Molinari Mollohan Monson Montgomery Moody Moore Moorhead Morrison (WA) Murphy Murtha Myers Natcher Neal Nelson Nielson Oberstar Obey Olin Ortiz Oxley Packard Parris Pashayan PeasePenny Perkins Petri Pickle Price Quillen Rahall Ray Regula Reid Richardson Ridge Rinaldo Ritter Roberts Robinson Roemer Rogers Rose Roth Rowland (CT) Rowland (GA) Rudd Saxton Schaefer Schuette Sensenbrenner Sharp Shaw Shelby Shumway Shuster Sikorski Siljander Sisisky Skeen Skelton Slattery Slaughter Smith (IA) Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Smith, Denny (OR) Smith, Robert (NH) Smith, Robert (OR) Snowe Snyder Solomon Spence Spratt Staggers Stallings Stangeland Stenholm Strang StumpSundquist Sweeney Swift Swindall Synar Tallon Tauke Tauzin Taylor Thomas (CA) Thomas (GA) Traxler Udall Valentine Vander Jagt Volkmer Vucanovich Walker Watkins Weaver Weber Whitley Whittaker Whitten Williams Wilson Wirth Wise Wolf Wortley Wyden Yatron Young (AK) Young (FL) Young (MO) Zschau

NAYS-130
Ackerman Akaka Annunzio Atkins Barnes Bates Bedell Beilenson Bennett Berman Biaggi Boland Bonior (MI) Borski Boxer Broomfield Brown (CA) Burton (CA) Carper Clay Collins Conyers Coughlin Coyne Crockett Dellums DioGuardi Dixon Donnelly Downey Durbin Dwyer Dymally Early Edgar Edwards (CA) Evans (IL) Fascell Fawell Fazio Feighan Foglietta Ford (TN) Frank Frost Garcia Gejdenson Gibbons Gonzalez Gradison Gray (PA) GreenGuarini Hall (OH) Hawkins Hayes Henry Hertel Howard Hoyer Hughes Jacobs Kaptur Kastenmeier Kennelly Kildee LaFalce Lehman (FL) Leland Levin (MI) Levine (CA) Lipinski Lowry (WA) Manton Markey Martinez Matsui Mavroules McHugh McKinney Mica Mikulski Miller (CA) Miller (WA) Mineta Mitchell Moakley Morrison (CT) Mrazek Nowak Oakar Owens Panetta Pepper Porter Pursell Rangel Rodino Roe Rostenkowski Roukema Roybal Russo Sabo Savage Scheuer Schneider Schroeder Schumer Seiberling Smith (FL) Solarz St Germain Stark Stratton Studds Torres Torricelli Towns Traficant Vento Visclosky Walgren Waxman Weiss Wheat Whitehurst Wright Wylie Yates

NOT VOTING-12
Addabbo Boulter Gephardt Grotberg Heftel Ireland Lujan Nichols O'Brien Schulze Stokes Wolpe

12:05PM

The Clerk announced the following pairs:

On this vote:

Mr. Nichols for, with Mr. Heftel of Hawaii against.
Mr. Schulze for, with Mr. Gephardt against,
Mr. Ireland for, with Mr. Stokes against.

So the bill was passed.

The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.

A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. BOLAND). Pursuant to the provisions of House Resolution 403, the Committee on the Judiciary is discharged from the   further   consideration  of  the Senate bill (S. 49) to protect firearms owners' constitutional rights, civil liberties, and rights to privacy.

The Clerk read the title of the Senate bill. 

 MOTION OFFRED BY MR. HUGHES

Mr. HUGHES: Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion,

The Clerk read as follows:

Mr. Hughes moves to strike out all after the enacting clause of the Senate bill, S. 49, and to insert in lieu thereof the provisions of H.R. 4332, as passed by the House, as follows: SECTION I. SHORT TITLE AND CONGRESSIONAL
[...]
Section 921 of title 18, United States Code, is amended-


The motion was agreed to.

The Senate bill was ordered to be read a third time, was read the third time, and passed.

The title of the Senate bill was amended so as to read: "An Act to amend chapter 44 (relating to firearms) of title 18, United States Code, and for other purposes."

A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

A similar House bill (H.R. 4332) was laid on the table.