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Technology - NEW - / Re: Apps for shooters
« Last post by JamesCollins on September 16, 2021, 11:42:32 AM »
Thanks I am going to go check these apps out
Firearms Related / Re: Pistol Correction Chart Targets
« Last post by JamesCollins on September 10, 2021, 10:10:30 AM »
Used them and they worked
Great thank you!
General Talk / Report: Joe Biden to Withdraw David Chipman Nomination
« Last post by GunLink on September 09, 2021, 12:28:38 PM »
President Joe Biden reportedly plans to withdraw the nomination of David Chipman, the Gabby Giffords’ gun control associate whom the administration put forward to lead the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF).

Politico reported the pending withdrawal of Chipman’s nomination, citing “three sources close to the process.”

The Washington Post reported the news about Chipman as well, citing “bipartisan pushback” against the gun controller’s nomination.

This news comes one day after Breitbart News pointed out that Chipman would need at least one Republican senator to defect to the Democrat side to secure confirmation.

Donald Trump Jr. has been among the strongest and most consistent voices against Chipman throughout the nomination/confirmation process:

Read More... Breitbart - Report: Joe Biden to Withdraw David Chipman Nomination

Politico - White House planning to withdraw ATF nominee

Firearms Related / Re: Ask a gun counter guy anything
« Last post by Glockzilla3K on September 09, 2021, 11:37:53 AM »
Dream job. Do you have a range to shoot the guns on?
Firearms Related / Re: Rare Breed FRT-15
« Last post by masfonos on September 09, 2021, 11:30:43 AM »
The Rare Breed complaint also references the TacCon 3MR trigger. GunLink covered them at SHOT Show 2014 & 2015. My friend has one. I couldn't get it to go that fast, but he can really rip it.

I think it works differently but does pretty much the same thing. ATF said its "positive reset characteristic" was fine.


"The FTB examination [...] showed that when the selector was placed in the horizontal position (apex at 3 o'clock), the reset lever pivots forward, and the hammer engages/contacts the lever during the cycling of the rifle. In this position, the hammer contacts the reset lever during cocking, which applies force to the trigger, forces the shooter's finger forward, and allows the trigger to reset rapidly.

In the course of our evaluation, FTB personnel installed the submitted 3MR trigger into an AR-15 type rifle housed in the ATF National Firearms Collection for test firing. During this phase, a function test was performed before live-fire was conducted. The 3MR functioned only semi automatically during both the field test and live-firing.

In conclusion FTB has determined that the 3MR trigger assembly is not a part or combination of parts that will convert a semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun. "
Firearms Related / Re: Rare Breed FRT-15
« Last post by masfonos on September 09, 2021, 11:23:17 AM »
Len Savage is a guy from Historic Arms who has a history with ATF not fairly calling balls and strikes for him. He's probably not a household name. I have screenshots of some of his posts and documents about his dealings with ATF somewhere. I'll post them when I get a chance to look.

Also... Player Two has entered the game. https://www.wotar15.com/ Wide Open Triggers "Hard Reset Trigger"

Really, they must be player 4 or 5. I found this https://www.recoil-technology-systems.com/graves-v2-art.html from the guy that invented the technology. According to his timeline:

- In 2014 Thomas Allen Graves invents the World’s first fully integrated positive displacement trigger reset technology type firearm.
- In 2015 Thomas Allen Graves provides positive displacement trigger reset technology to WOLF TACTICAL LLC.
- In 2020 WOLF TACTICAL LLC provides positive displacement trigger reset technology to RARE BREED TRIGGERS LLC.
-In 2021 Thomas Allen Graves provides positive displacement trigger reset technology to ALAMO TRIGGERS LLC.

I couldn't find anything about Wolf Tactical or Alamo Triggers. Graves' website shows a picture of the Alamo. Since it's from this year I wonder if it's pre-production. The FRT-15, WOT, and Alamo all look the same. WOT says "patent pending" though, so it must use different tech?

Firearms Related / Re: Rare Breed FRT-15
« Last post by Glockzilla3K on September 09, 2021, 10:47:34 AM »
I missed that part. Should I know who Len Savage is?
Firearms Related / Re: Rare Breed FRT-15
« Last post by masfonos on September 08, 2021, 06:00:02 PM »
They might try to say that. I didn't see any video or any test procedures, but I don't think it's what they say it is. I guess they are trying to say that the zip tie in a "static" position acts as fixed object and the trigger resetting hits that fixed object and "pulls itself" again. Based on Rare Breed's videos and description of how the FRT works, that isn't possible. At best, in their own imagination, the zip tie flexes enough to act as a spring that the reset stretches and, when it bounces back, it pulls the trigger.

I'll have to dig around to find it, but I think this is the same thing they did to Len Savage to claim his sample upper was a machine gun. They used zip ties, loose chains, and all sorts of other bad faith tactics. Reading Len's side of things, the ATF has a flat out vendetta against him and treat him unfairly because of it. They even expressed as much in writing in emails. IIRC, that was a decade ago and last I heard they still haven't given his sample back.

Either way, I'm not sure it matters since the complaint alleges that the FTB was manipulating the zip tie to get each shot to fire. Put plainly, they tied a zip tie to the trigger and used that to pull the trigger each time instead of using their finger to pull it each time.
Firearms Related / Ask a gun counter guy anything
« Last post by TheHarleyB on September 08, 2021, 04:39:11 PM »
Well, mostly former counter monkey. Fire away. There are no stupid questions. Well, there are, but I guarantee I've heard ones 10x as stupid.

Need a leopard print case to carry a 9mm HiPoint Glock 40 blaster with ebay beams? And a new mag for a no-name gun that hasn't been made for 35 years? They'll be on the truck next week.
Just got out of prison? Smell like Cheech & Chong were your Lyft drivers for the ride over? Forgot your ID? Bad news, buddy.
Got a new gun? By all means, please whip it out and show everyone.
Best friends with the owner? Sweet, me too! I forget my friends names all the time too, special discount!
Firearms Related / Re: What was the first gun you bought?
« Last post by TheHarleyB on September 08, 2021, 04:25:05 PM »
Not the first one I owned, but the first one I bought was a 22 caliber Ruger.

G19 is a good choice. Big enough for home and small enough to carry. Have you shot it yet? What other ones did you consider?

I don't have a good reason for it, but I'm not a big fan of gen 5.
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