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"A federal judge appointed by former President Barack Obama on Tuesday struck down a 95-year-old California law that had banned handgun ads at gun shops, calling it "unconstitutional on its face" and slamming the state for its "paternalistic" assumption that its residents can't make up their own minds about firearms.

Officials in California had claimed the advertisements would trigger people with ďimpulsive personality traitsĒ to buy more handguns, leading to increased suicides and crime -- assertions that U.S. District Judge Troy Nunley in Sacramento all but mocked in his ruling.

The 1923 law provided that "No handgun or imitation handgun, or placard advertising the sale or other transfer thereof, shall be displayed in any part of [a gun store] where it can readily be seen from the outside.

Wow. From 1923, I'm guessing it was more to do with trying to cut down on prohibition era gangsters getting concealable firearms than playing daddy and preventing suicides. That was probably just the spin that the feel-good lunatics out there latched on to to keep it on the books. Most of the guns that stores sold in that era were probably hunting shotguns and rifles and you have to remember that a lot of people probably mail ordered their guns from catalogs too.  At the time it was probably a "non issue" but you can bet your ass that CA isn't going to repeal a gun law regardless of how stupid it is.
I stopped following any of it when they made it clear they either wouldn't or couldn't give out any actual information. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I'll give it a read but I have an idea of what's in it already.
Firearms Related / Re: Mossberg Shockwave to full-length and back?
« Last post by TheHarleyB on Yesterday at 04:17:26 PM »
Hooray for "shall not be infringed."  :-\

Oh, is that still a thing? I thought they gave up on that.
General Talk / Las Vegas police full report on 2017 Mandalay Bay attack
« Last post by TheHarleyB on Yesterday at 04:12:34 PM »
I didn't see a thread about this.  I thought I remember the sheriff saying that they wouldn't give their report until October 1st 2018 - one year after the attack. This report is dated August 3rd but I only just now started seeing it floating around the internet this weekend.

All 187 pages of it online at https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1-October-FIT-Criminal-Investigative-Report-FINAL_080318.pdf

https://www.scribd.com/document/385387294/Oct-1-shooting-final-report-from-the-Las-Vegas-Metropolitan-Police-Department   edit just found it on the LVPD page... from August 3. I don't know how I didn't hear anything about it for a month and a half.

Their preliminary report from january is at https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf
News, Articles & Columns / Re: CA law on handgun advertisements challeneged
« Last post by LivingDeadGirl on September 15, 2018, 09:26:01 AM »
I read the article. It was supposed to prevent suicide by preventing impulse buying at the counter.  So having all the handguns in a display case to view isnít the same thing?

I also see they fined a store for a vinyl decal of a revolver in the window.  Not sure how that was advertising unless itís just saying, hey we sell handguns and revolvers in this gun store.

I tried finding the numbers to see if it did prevent suicide and couldnít find any.  Has anyone else seen it referenced?

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New Member Introductions / Re: Greetings from Kentucky from a rimfire Junkie
« Last post by Rimfire86 on September 14, 2018, 09:45:42 PM »
I was joking about the Sunday hours.

Having owned several businesses in the Louisville area, I would suggest you keep a day off for yourself and for your staff.

No amount of sales can offset the added stress.  It was easier to hire and retain great employees when they always knew at the least they would never have to work a Sunday shift.
Training, Survival and Prepping / Re: Cedar Oil?
« Last post by LivingDeadGirl on September 14, 2018, 11:30:49 AM »
Interesting.  Is this part of the essential oils movement? 

I guess it makes sense though, cedar planks are used to keep moths away so maybe it works on other insects too. 

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News, Articles & Columns / CA law on handgun advertisements challeneged
« Last post by MutantMaker on September 13, 2018, 10:36:56 PM »

I didnít even know this was thing in CA.  They can advertise long guns and handguns on billboards on the street a block away, but you can only advertise long guns in a gun store. It was supposed to prevent suicide?

I love what the judge said, a judge appointed by the last guy too, "[T]he Supreme Court has rejected this highly paternalistic approach to limiting speech, holding that the Government may not 'achieve its policy objectives through the indirect means of restraining certain speech by certain speakerí ď

Is he saying thatís itís a sexist law, like how eating meat is now sexist or global warming is sexist?

General Talk / Re: Gun control steps hurt Dick's Sporting sales, shares slip
« Last post by TheHarleyB on September 13, 2018, 11:57:10 AM »
What did Levi's Do now?
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